Taking A Look At New Cross Gate


We reported recently on the consultation to extend the Bakerloo Line which, if it were to be built, would include a station at New Cross Gate. Before that we reported on what the approach lines to London Bridge on the Brighton Main Line will look like once the Thameslink Programme is complete. We are also now towards the end of Network Rail’s major reconstruction of New Cross Gate station and they recently brought into use the extensive new pedestrian overbridge there as part of the Access for All programme. It therefore seems a particularly opportune moment to take a brief look at New Cross Gate station and the possibilities there for the future.

front view of station

New Cross Gate station entrance with a narrow pavement in front of it

Another station that reinvents itself

New Cross Gate station and the surrounding railway land has a particularly interesting history, with the station and surroundings having been re-invented many times over the years – from being a major motive power depot in steam days, to having extensive carriage sidings and then to be reduced to little more than a minimal station to serve the inner rail London traffic. For many years it had a single platform devoted to use as a terminus for the infrequent trains of the lightly used East London Line of the London Underground.

Since those BR dark days the station has seen a new vitality with the East London Line becoming part of London Overground and station use positively booming. The physical connection between the national rail network and the Underground network at New Cross Gate was lost forever in 1966. This connection has now been reinstated to connect the down line from the East London Line (no longer part of London Underground) to the down slow line south of the station but meanwhile the connection near Whitechapel between the East London Line and the current Underground network had been severed and bricked off.

On the up side a new overbridge takes trains from the south over the main tracks and continues northward onto the East London Line. As well as all that, New Cross Gate’s status as a depot has been well and truly restored thanks to the London Overground Depot to be found to the north of the station, which stores and maintains the East London Line fleet.

Some stations seem to be almost unchanging and others never seem to stay the same for long. New Cross Gate has been in the latter category throughout its history and the signs are there that it will continue to be so for many years to come.

A history of the station in five links

The Wikipedia entry for the station gives a surprisingly good brief history of the station and the much referenced accompanying 1908 Railway Clearing House map show the vast array of railway lines that used to be present in the area. A website about the former New Cross Gate Signal box not only has the inevitable track diagrams but also a photo showing the extensive site in 1958. We reported on the New Cross Gate Depot back in 2010. As always, Carto Metro is your friend if you are unfamiliar with the track layout in relation to the surrounding area. Be aware that the railway between New Cross Gate and London Bridge is changing on a regular basis during the Thameslink Programme so won’t be 100% accurate. Note that Silwood depot is already marked up on the Carto Metro map.

A station fit for purpose – providing there aren’t too many passengers

Ever present in any 21st century railway discussion is the need to upgrade existing stations to handle 21st century passenger traffic. In recent years this was perhaps more of a concern for London Underground than Network Rail, but various recent documents make it clear that nowadays Network Rail too is concerned about this. On this website, comments have previously been made on the subject and New Cross Gate was cited as an example of a station that was simply failing to cope with the increased number of people using it. Since the arrival of the East London Line in 2010, now providing 8tph throughout most of the day, entry and exit numbers at the station have more than doubled to over 4million per annum.

Old stairs

The formerly-used staircase was narrow and obviously not wheelchair accessible.

The inability of the station to cope with the passenger numbers was not helped by the narrow staircases down to the platforms. It was not surprising therefore that the station was included in the Access for All scheme to make stations accessible to the disabled. The need for enhanced access to the platforms could be combined with a scheme to provide lifts to all platforms.

The fast line platforms are of limited use


Current track layout at New Cross Gate

New Cross Gate is mainly served by all-stations trains. Though unlike most other stations north of Norwood Junction on the Brighton Main Line to London Bridge, it also has platforms serving the fast lines. These fast line platforms are number 3 and 4 because, for some reason, platform 1 is the easternmost platform on the down side. Platforms 3 and 4 make up an island platform, served by the fast Horsham trains every half hour and generally the only trains to use these platforms. Nevertheless the arrival of lifts has led to speculation by some that the fast service will get better sometime in the future.

One of the more useful factual things to come out of the Bakerloo Line Extension consultation is a Background to Consultation document which has a table of anticipated future rail services at various stations – including New Cross Gate.

Frequency table

Extract from table from Bakerloo Background to Consultation document

From that table we can see that it is expected that the number of peak hour National Rail services (excluding London Overground) expected to call at New Cross will be just six. We can fairly safely assume that the all stations service will not be reduced to just 4tph to London Bridge so it is highly likely that these recently introduced stops on the fast platforms will disappear.

The 6tph to and from London Bridge in the peak period are what is currently committed to. The Sussex Area Route Study consultation draft stated that it was:

… established that the recent 10-car train lengthening on the Sydenham Route, combined with baseline extension to 5-car of East London Line services on this route, means that no further interventions are likely to be required in the study timescale on radial capacity Sydenham corridor to London Bridge.

As mentioned in The Approaches to London Bridge one can see a desirability to make that 8tph on the slow lines to London Bridge to match the 8tph on the slow lines to Canada Water via the East London Line but clearly there are currently no plans for that to happen.

The logic in making the slow services on the Sydenham Line more evenly spaced by alternating between London Bridge and Canada Water will, of course, go out the window if the rumoured 2tph East London Line “pixie busters” to and from Crystal Palace (also mentioned in that article) ever materialise. These too get a mention in the Sussex Area Route Study and are clearly a Network Rail objective, but appear to be problematic. The biggest problem seems not to be finding the paths in the peak direction, but finding the paths in the reverse direction for the empty stock to return.

The above draft paper also has the revealing and curious statement that:

This particular market to London Bridge is closely linked to changes in service provision on the East London Line route, with many passengers taking the first train and changing at Canada Water, if an East London Line service arrives first.

This statement could be re-interpreted as saying that the direct service to London Bridge is so lousy that, rather than wait for their 10-car direct train in the cold, passengers often take the longer and more illogical route through via Canada Water and the Jubilee Line. In other words, because there isn’t a decent direct service to London Bridge, or possibly the necessary onward connections are overcrowded, passengers create an artificially high demand on the limited capacity 4-car East London Line services and then quite needlessly fill up the Jubilee Line.

The least used lifts at a London station?

What the above goes to show it that it is highly likely that in a few years time the lifts down to platforms 2 and 3 will be little used. Furthermore the draft Sussex Area Route Study would appear to confirm this.

Once the Thameslink Programme is fully complete there are expected to be at least 20tph on the fast lines and future opportunities for a fast train calling at New Cross Gate without delaying the following train are going to be extremely limited. This will get even harder if Network Rail manage to raise the speed limit on the fast lines, as they hope to do one day, because each stopping train would delay the following fast train even more.

Operationally inconvenient but what some passengers want

Despite the fact that there are good railway operational reasons for not allowing fast trains to call at New Cross Gate it must seem to some members of the general public that this is an obvious thing to do – especially now that the fast platforms have lifts and the station is fully accessible. The time spent on an all stations train to Norwood Junction from New Cross Gate is significant and a fast train from New Cross Gate to Norwood Junction is 9 or 10 minutes faster. So the time saving for anyone from south of Norwood Junction wanting to use the East London Line would be significant if some fast trains stopped at New Cross Gate.

Alternate view on platform 5

Former railway land was sold to Sainsbury’s. So little was retained that even getting the footbridge in was a problem

In fact there is a rather clever way of enabling fast trains to call at New Cross Gate providing they terminate at London Bridge. The trick is to call at the slow line platforms and switch to or from the fast lines just south of the station. This would work very well in the down direction as the whole move could be done without conflicting with a down East London Line train (of which there are 8tph). It would not be so good in the up direction as the East London Line and London Bridge trains share a platform. As is more clearly seen from a bird’s eye view, one could not easily build an extra platform as the land needed has been sold to Sainsbury’s and part of the vital strip is an access road to get to the back of their supermarket.


One possible way of giving the station more operational flexibility – but it requires land take and some bridge reconstruction. Red lines show new track required.

It is well known that land take is undesirable and something Network Rail tries to avoid if at all possible. In the case of an additional platform on the west side of the station there would also have to be some bridge reconstruction and this would be best done in conjunction with any redevelopment of the Sainsbury’s site.

Original double bridge

Looking south from platform 1 where there were originally two tracks under the bridge

Alternatively a platform could be added to the east side of the station. One is then doing something a little like the Clapham Junction proposals, shifting paths through the station to serve the next platform along. This layout has the big advantage of only involving railway land and could potentially avoid road bridge reconstruction. There is also a little bit of limited evidence to suggest that Network Rail have already allowed passive provision for something like this in their current setup. The main disadvantage of such a scheme would be it would be less convenient for many down passengers as their next train could be from platform 0 or 1 and changing platforms would involve use of the footbridge.


Alternative possible arrangement where a plaform is added on the east side of the station.

There is of course a minor Baldrick-like flaw in these cunning plans to allow fast trains terminating at or starting from London Bridge to call at New Cross Gate. This is that from the end of 2018 it is anticipated that it will be only possible for 4tph to terminate at London Bridge using the fast lines in the peak hours. Of these, two will be diesel operated Uckfield trains, possibly loco hauled/propelled even, and, due to their lesser acceleration capabilities, one could understand it if the timetable planners were reluctant to have them stop at New Cross Gate.

Whether or not the current layout will suffice for years to come is something we here are not competent to judge but it does seem that, if stopping some fast trains at New Cross Gate was considered desirable in future, the current station layout should not be seen as critical factor in preventing it. We should also emphasise these plans suggested are not official plans but are merely shown to indicate that there are possible solutions to stopping fast trains at New Cross Gate. Needless to say there are all sorts of possible variations that could also be considered.

All these proposals are trying to show is that, even if not practical with the current layout post 2018, it is possible with money and determination to make workable arrangement for some fast trains to stop at New Cross Gate. There many be good reasons for not doing so but the matter should not be dismissed out of hand on the basis that it will not be operationally practical in future. It is only fair to point out that Network Rail does not mention stopping fast trains at New Cross Gate in its draft Sussex Area Route Study, but then it also totally fails to mention at all the fact that there is a proposed Bakerloo Line station planned for New Cross Gate. In fact it does not mention the Bakerloo Line at all.

Access for All

Step Free Access

Accessibility on the Crystal Palace and West Croydon branches

Back to the present and it is clear that a lot of effort is going into making New Cross Gate station accessible for all. What is not so obvious is that this branch of London Overground all the way to Crystal Palace will soon have every station fully accessible. It is a pity that Penge West and Norwood Junction will stand out as being the exception on the West Croydon Branch but in the latter case it would not only be challenging, but may have to wait until final plans are prepared to see what changes, if any, will be made to the station layout in future.

Wide passageway

Light and spacious passageway to and from all platforms

It can be clearly seen from the photos that the passageways are much more spacious. As well as improving capacity the new foot overbridge brings along another couple of potential advantages. The first is that if it was ever considered desirable to rebuild the station entrance including, possibly, setting it further back from the road then this would now be simpler to do. As can been seen from the very first picture, the space in front the station is fairly limited. Furthermore the road could do with widening so that a central pedestrian refuge could be incorporated into the pedestrian crossing. The second is that it is now easy to extend the platforms southwards so that they reach as far as the road overbridge. It will be interesting to see how many carriages long the platforms will eventually be.

Space for platform extension

Once work on the overbridge and lifts is complete the platform can be extended

If there is a weakness in the new overbridge and platform access arrangements of the station it is one that once again goes back to selling off too much of the ancillary land to Sainsbury’s. On platform 5 (the up slow) it is necessary to place the footbridge down the platform at an awkward angle which means that there is a turn of greater than 90°. Turns of greater than 90° are generally avoided if at all possible in foot passageways as people don’t like them and they tend to reduce capacity.

Old and new at platform 5

A different view of the rather awkward route to platform 5 involving a turn of more than 90° then steps. The old stairs can be seen, still in use

The medium term future

Apart from Thameslink which (if anything) impacts the station in a negative way, there are various things that may happen in future that could affect the station. The London 2050 Transport Supporting Paper talks of “ATO on ELL core section: increase frequencies”. This may mean that more London Overground trains would call at New Cross Gate which in turn may mean there would be some benefit in having a separate London Overground Up platform.

It is also known that Sainsbury’s are keen to redevelop their New Cross Gate site which clearly has a lot of potential for oversite development. This would be an obvious time to try and get some of the land back which, in retrospect, should never have been sold in the first place. There may be limited potential for land swap using land at the back of the supermarket or even on the east side of the station.

The long term future

The other interesting possibility for the future is of course a possible Bakerloo Line station. And if Sainsbury’s want to redevelop the site then this would be the obvious time to provide a “Woolwich Crossrail” type solution. The main problem is that the Bakerloo Line extension appears to be many years into the future whereas Sainsbury’s is probably looking at a much shorter timeframe. In the event of a Bakerloo Line station being built one can then see the attraction of making New Cross Gate a major interchange, not only with other rail lines but also with buses.

If the station track layout remains the same as today then if the Bakerloo Line does come to New Cross Gate a difficult decision would have to be made concerning the fast trains. Basically the only realistic options would probably be to stop none of them or to stop all of them. A mixture of stopping and non-stopping would not work too well if the stopping ones have to stop at the fast platforms and block the fast lines. But if you want to stop all of them and there are 20tph or more that might be problematic in itself.

Potential to extend platform further

If necessary, part of the station building could be demolished to extend the down slow platform all the way to the roadbridge. Note the new walkway goes upward on a slope here – presumably to give sufficient clearance for any future overhead electrification scheme.


Continuing with a theme developed in London 2050 part 2 there does seem to be a trend in inner London of many stations experiencing rocketing demand and consequently major development whereas in the outer suburbs change is only happening slowly, if at all. Even amongst the inner London stations New Cross Gate appears to have encountered phenomenal growth and all the signs are that it will continue to do so. Like Clapham Junction it would appear that in the case of New Cross Gate it is not enough to relax because of what has been done up to the present day to make the station fit for purpose. Demand will probably continue to rise and there will probably need to be further enhancements to take this into account.

Thanks to Unravelled for his photos. You can see many more of his pictures showing the work at New Cross Gate starting from here. Thanks also to ngh for providing the diagrams.

Written by Pedantic of Purley